OK, granted this guy almost stacked me, but I just found this hand representative of general donkey play, where they play draws loose/passively out of position, and then fail to get full value when their draw hits.
Seat 2: UTG+2 ($152.55)
Seat 5: bruechips (CO) ($289.20)
Seat 6: Button ($303.25)
Seat 7: SB ($223.20)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [Ah As]
UTG+2 calls $2
CO raises to $10
Button calls $10
SB calls $9
UTG+2 folds (This was a pretty juicy table. I wasn't crazy about my seat because the button was a LAG who, while I think is a losing player, could put me in some tough spots. The SB was a complete donkey, playing very loose. This UTG+2 idiot was limping in early position and then folding to a raise in a 4-way pot where he's closing out the action. Donkerrific. In this hand I'm obviously feeling good with aces, but I'm also going to have to be aware that I could lose a big pot.)
*** FLOP *** [8d 9h 4d]
SB bets $22
CO raises to $58 (I would be SHOCKED if the SB were leading out here for 2/3 pot with a set. Shocked. I would even be surprised if he did it with top two pair. I think he has some one-pair hand like J9 or K8 or a draw like every time. I'm way ahead of his range and I don't want to call and give the button good odds to call with QT or something....although the button is aggro enough to try a squeeze play with a pretty wide range if I just called, and I'd have a sweet opportunity to come over the top. In any case, I decided to charge the draws and second best hands by raising for value.)
Button folds
SB calls $36
*** TURN *** [8d 9h 4d] [3c]
SB checks
Button bets $92 (Beautiful turn card and he checks. I'm pretty sure he's drawing to somewhere between 5 and 12 outs. There is about $145 in the pot and he has $155 left in his stack. I could just shove, but I thought he'd be more likely to call, or maybe even shove over top of, a smaller bet. If he were guaranteed to double up when he hits, then if I bet an amount x, he calls that amount x to win 145 (the amount already in the pot) + x (my turn bet) + 155-x (what's left in his stack after calling the turn bet). So the implied odds would be (145 + x + 155 - x):x = 290:x. So if he has 12 outs (for instance if he has QdTd) for 12/44 = 3/11 equity (i.e., an 8:3 dog to catch up on the river), he makes a mistake by calling anytime 290/x is less than 8/3, or x > 109. If he has 8 outs for 8/44 = 2/11 equity, he should not call if 290/x is less than 9/2, or x > 65. And remember these calculations assume that he gets all-in on the river anytime he catches up on the river, and never puts in another chip if he misses. So by betting $92 I do give him implied odds with his biggest draws, but I force him to make a big mistake with any lesser draws, and if he ever shoves in over the top of a $92 bet where he would have folded to a shove, that's just gravy. Also note that there are a lot more 8 and 9-out draws than 12-out draws. Any JT or 76 gives 8 outs, any two diamonds (including A-high diamonds, since I do NOT have the Ad) except for QT, 75, and QJ of diamonds makes 9 outs, whereas only the three diamond hands mentioned there give 12 outs. If he had more than 12 outs either on the flop or turn, for instance JT of diamonds, 67 of diamonds, 9x of diamonds, I think he'd just shove either the flop or the turn, in which case my bet sizing doesn't matter, as long as I bet. If he would be calling a shove very often then obviously shoving is better, but he timed down for a while before calling this bet, which makes me think he probably would have folded to a shove. If I had it to do over I might bet just a touch more, like $99, but I think anywhere in the $90-100 range is good, as it is tempting for him to call, while still being a bad mistake, and might give him the illusion of some fold equity.)
SB calls $92
*** RIVER *** [8d 9h 4d 3c] [Qs]
SB bets $18
bruechips calls $18 (ROR!!! He has $63 left in his stack, the pot is now $330ish, and he bets $18. I considered going ahead and putting him in as he could be putting in a blocking bet with Qx of diamonds, but I decided to take the safer route and just call to avoid value-owning myself vs. JT.)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SB shows [Th Jh] a straight, Queen high
OK, so he won this hand by getting the straight on the river, but he played it absolutely atrociously. His bet/call on the flop is terrible. His check/call on the turn is terrible (the math I did up there to show the biggest bet he can call, remember, assumes that he will get full value on the river), and his small river value bet is even worse. I guess he's trying to induce me to shove for another $45? I'm pretty much NEVER shoving that river to try to get a calling station to fold for another $45 in a $350 pot. If I ever shove over the top of his bet, it would be for value, in which case I'm calling if he shoves anyway (I would definitely have called if he had shoved the river). His inability to get value on the river makes his turn call even worse. Well played donkey!!!
-BRUECHIPS
October 31, 2008
Thanks For Not Stacking Me, Bro! (Part 6)
October 29, 2008
Art of the Min Raise (Part 14)
Usually this series is about ridiculing donkeys in cash games that either min check-raise sets on very drawy boards or min 3-bet AA and KK preflop. But I do occasionally use the min-raise myself, particularly in tourneys. You want to make bets smaller in general in tourneys because you have to be more conservative with your chips, as you can't buy any more. Whereas in a cash game 100 bbs deep usually the min-raise means a monster (or sometimes air on a dry board), in tourneys (and sometimes vs. shorties in a cash game), the min raise often means a weak made hand such as top pair-weak kicker or even A-high. For me personally, I most often use it when I call a pre-flop raise in position, usually in a blind battle, and want to min-raise a c-bet. Here are a couple of examples:
Seat 5: SB (1,455)
Seat 6: bruechips (BB) (1,500)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [Ad Jd]
7 folds...
SB raises to 90
BB calls 60 (I'm very tight early in tourneys so I don't want to re-raise here although I would often in a cash game, but AJs way too strong to fold to a SB open.)
*** FLOP *** [Kc 9d 2s]
SB bets 90
bruechips raises to 180 (This is a good spot to min-raise because it's a dry board that he'll be c-betting every time, and this is how I would play weak-ish made hands such as KJ as well as 99 and 22. I'm also just forcing him into a really tough spot. Even if he has a hand as strong as JJ, he's faced with the possibility of either re-raising and getting shoved on by all the hands that beat him and folding out all the hands that are behind, or calling and having potentially to face a couple of big turn and river bets. By putting in 180, I force him to make a decision for a much larger portion of his stack.)
SB folds
Just to prove that I don't have just bluffs there:
Seat 4: SB (5,420)
Seat 5: bruechips (BB) (5,345)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [Td Kd]
SB raises to 600
BB calls 300 (Deep enough to just call and use position here.)
*** FLOP *** [Tc Ks 6h]
SB bets 900 (c-bet he'd make every tiem)
bruechips raises to 1,800 (Now I'm hoping he has KQ, or that he has nothing and the min-raise just makes him go nuts, since he knows that I know he'd c-bet every time, and thinks I have AJ or J9 or something.)
SB raises to 2,700 (Sure enough he min 3-bets like a complete donkey)
bruechips raises to 4,720, and is all in (He looked committed enough to me, so I shoved...calling the 3-bet and just getting it all in on the turn is fine too, but just calling the 3-bet with 2,000 behind might set off alarm bells for him, whereas shoving might look bluffy)
SB calls 2,020
SB shows [8s 8d] (Sure enough, the min raise made this idiot go nuts)
*** TURN *** [Tc Ks 6h] [4c]
*** RIVER *** [Tc Ks 6h 4c] [8c]
Unfortunately, this donkey nails a two-outter on the river to bounce me from this tourney. Fawking donkeys....
-BRUECHIPS
October 27, 2008
Book Review: 'Winning Poker Tournaments' by Rizen, Apestyles, and Pearljammer
As part of my foray into tournament play, I picked up the new tourney book by online pros Eric "Rizen" Lynch, Jon "Apestyles" Van Fleet, and Jon "Pearljammer" Turner. You can use points to get it from the Full Tilt Store. It's volume 1 of a planned 2-volume series. This volume covers hands up to the money bubble, with the next volume projected to cover hands from the money bubble to the end of the tournament. The book has 4 sections. In the first three, each author takes 50-60 hands and analyzes them action by action. In the final section, there are 20 hands where each author gives their own independent take on each action.
Of the three, Pearljammer's play is probably the most closely directed towards tournaments. By that I mean that his play is often more directed towards survival and conservatism rather than aggression and applying maximum pressure on opponents. For instance, he flat calls a pre-flop min raise with TT on the button, essentially playing the hand for set value rather than wanting to create a big pot early, even though he probably has the best hand. He even open limps TT from the hijack (which, of course, looks like a great play in the hand shown because he flops a boat). Later on in the group section, he decides to check his option in the BB with ATo after it's folded around to the SB, who limps in. He does manage to get in some thin river value bets, for instance value-betting Q5o on the river into two players on a Q63hhJ2 board. He obviously has a stellar record as a tourney player, so far be it from me to criticize his play, but he's a little passive pre-flop for my tastes.
Apestyles has a game that's probably most similar to the tourney game I am striving for. For instance, we find Apestyles raising TT UTG (granted, with blinds a bit higher than in the PearlJammer hand), whereas PearlJammer was limping it in the hijack. Whereas PearlJammer checks behind ATo in the BB, Apestyles mulls over raising in the same spot with Q4o. He eventually decides to check behind, and gets some very nice value raising the river on a K96KQ board. His section ends with a series of hands where he goes through every hand around the bubble of a big tourney as he really abuses the table to chip up, squeezing with QTo and 4-betting K7o in a blind battle. He also goes through some chip equity calculations in some hands, which none of the other authors do. I guess most readers wouldn't be interested in such calculations, which is why they are eschewed by PearlJammer and Rizen, but for a serious player, they're really crucial.
Rizen's section has some nice examples of 3-barrel bluffs (he fires 3 barrels at a KT5ddKT board), and some re-steals (T6o vs. the cutoff). The T6o is interesting because he 3-bets the cutoff, the BB shoves, and Rizen folds despite getting 2.4:1. His reasoning is that the BB's range is very very strong so that he might not even have the 29% equity he'd need to make the call chip-neutral, and also calling and losing would take away his chip lead at the table, whereas he could fold and maintain his chip lead. This is one of the only spots where the authors hint at the difference between chip EV and payout-EV. I guess the image effect of calling and having to show T6o and folding getting 2.4:1 is about the same, although he doesn't mention it.
Overall, I found many of the hands helpful, and I'll probably adjust my tourney play to be a little less risky pre-flop on the advice of PearlJammer. I don't think I'll ever find myself open-limping TT in late position, but I'll probably limp behind 88 or maybe even TT and AJs with a couple of limpers in front early on in a tourney, whereas in cash games I will be raising them pretty much every time. If you're a tourney player with some experience and a decent handle on ABC poker, this book will probably help you a lot, both to hone the ABC TAG style and to add in a few tricks. If you're a more advanced analytical player, you'll almost certainly find enough interesting material to make the book worth reading. I was interested enough that I will probably get the second volume. However you won't find any great material on calculating payout EV in terms of your stack, other stacks, and your assessment of your relative skill, which is really the central issue in tournament poker that separates it from cash games. As far as I know, Sklansky's 'Tournament Poker for Advanced Players' remains the most important book on this subject.
-BRUECHIPS
October 25, 2008
Brack is Beautiful (Part 11)
Got back into the full ring action tonight which produced this hand....I'm still not completely sure about the way I played the hand....please comment with any suggestions. I give my reasoning for playing this way, but I am willing to be convinced that other lines are better. The main villain in the hand seemed fairly solid with TAGish stats. We had tangled twice before, once where he had 3b my open, I 4b and he folded, and another time where he cold 4b my 3b of another player and I folded.
Seat 3: bruechips (CO) ($208.70)
Seat 5: SB ($206.25)
Seat 6: BB ($239)
Seat 7: UTG ($74.70)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [8s 9s]
UTG calls $2
bruechips calls $2 (This seems kind of ghey. Maybe my donk-n-go experiences are starting to infect my cash game pray. But the reason I limped behind instead of raising was that UTG is short, and I had seem him limp-re-raise once before. If he were full-stacked, I'd definitely raise to isolate him, but with stacks this shallow and him limping UTG, I decided to just limp behind. The button was not a very aggressive player who would be raising a lot, and the blinds are full-stacked, so I'm happy to take a flop with them. In general, my range for limping right here is suited connectors, smaller pocket pairs, and the occasional suited ace.)
SB calls $1
BB checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 7s 4d]
SB checks
BB checks
UTG checks
bruechips bets $6 (This is pretty standard, everybody checks to me and I bet my straight flush draw.)
SB folds
BB calls $6 (I'm pretty sure this does not represent a monster hand, as big hands would probably raise on this drawy a flop. I'm thinking he has something like a weak jack, maybe an 8d7d for middle pair and some backdoor equity, A7 is possible, 56, and spade draws, although I think most of the time he'd be playing draws more aggressively.)
UTG folds
*** TURN *** [Js 7s 4d] [Ac]
BB checks
bruechips bets $14 (Some would argue for checking behind here to be sure you get to see the river with your monster draw. But I decided it was worth betting here to try and take him off a weak one-pair hand, or get him to just call with that hand and let me win a bigger pot on the river, either by firing a third barrel or making the best hand and getting value. Also my draw is not to the nuts (unless the Ts hits), and I want to maintain the betting lead against bigger draws, again either to fold them out now or fire again on the river. This is certainly what I would do with 77, 44, A7s, A4s, and AJs, which are all in my range, although AJs probably less so as I'd usually raise it pre-flop.)
BB raises to $28 (This is a very odd min raise. I almost think misclicks make up a significant portion of his range. What really strong hand would he slowplay on this flop and then give such great drawing odds on the turn? This feels more like a kind of informational raise to see if his J9 or whatever is good. Or maybe he's taking some very weird line with QsTs or 2s3s for a flush draw that picked up a straight draw. The only way I could see the ace improving his hand is if he has A7, or if he has an A-high spade draw. The A-high spade draw would be a particularly ugly scenario for me. But again, I think it's highly unlikely that he'd play a big draw like the nut flush draw so weakly on the flop when he's up against somebody who limped preflop and bet when checked to. I'm definitely not folding to this raise, the question is whether I should call or raise. I decided to raise for a few reasons. First, there are big hands that I can very easily represent here, mainly sets and aces up. If he flopped bottom two and decided to take a cautious line of waiting for a safe turn card before raising. Is he really excited about getting it in here? Second, he probably expects me to fire a second barrel at the ace with my entire range, so there's a good chance that he's trying to make a cheap rebluff with a pretty weak hand. Third, if I just call and miss, I can't represent much on the river. I think he's a pretty good player who is not going to just check/fold a blank river. He will probably be firing another barrel, and I can't represent much if I raise to try and rebluff. If I had a big hand already on the turn, I'd raise it there. If I had a mediocre hand like AhTh and decided I didn't want to fold, I'd just call the turn and river instead of raising. If I do hit a spade, it's pretty obvious what I have if I bet or raise. Getting value will be difficult unless he has a better flush, in which case he'll be the one getting value from me. The only really great card would be a T. That would give me a well disguised hand that I could get paid off with.)
bruechips raises to $96 (As far as the sizing, I want to raise an amount that appears to commit me to the pot, so he won't feel like he has any fold equity at all with KsQs or something like that. I want those hands to fold, or even better, call and check/fold the river. At the same time, I think shoving or raising too much looks kind of weak and he might just get really curious and decide QJ is gold. If I had a set, I'd raise to about this amount to charge the draws and force him to make a decision for his whole stack, so that's the amount I choose here.)
BB has requested TIME
BB folds
He tanked for a while. He could have been just Hollywooding, not wanting to let me and the rest of the table know that he just tried to pull one over on me with complete air. Or he could have made some huge laydown. It's such a weird line for him to take. I'm still kind of wondering what he had there. My best guess is still that he had a weak made hand, and he wanted to try and end the hand there rather than check/call or check/fold the river. Any other ideas?
-BRUECHIPS
P.S. - One other interesting tid-bit, just to show you how many draws there are on this board, EVERY unpaired suited connector or one-gapper has a straight draw by the turn.
October 23, 2008
The Shortstack Game (Part 4)
First of all....I hate Blogger. I had a lengthier post written that was for some reason deleted by Blogger when I tried to change the font color. Thanks Blogger.
Anyway, it seems like nobody's really interested in this Shortstack Game. But having come this far, I should give some sketch of a solution for equilibrium in the game. If you are enterprising and want to find it (or at least one of them):
1) Show that there is no equilibrium when player 2 shoves less than 1/3 of the time
2) Show that there is no equilibrium when player 2 shoves more than 1/3 of the time
3) Find an equilibrium where player 2 shoves exactly 1/3 of the time.
In the equilibrium I found, player 1 raise/folds 27% of the time, raise/calls 29% of the time, and open folds 44% of the time. Player 1's expected payoff in equilibrium is .42, while player 2's is 1.08, showing the disadvantage of having to act first.
I can also solve for an n-player game where two of the players have to post blinds, and the other players sequentially must raise or fold if no-one has yet raised, shove or fold if a player has raised already, and fold or call if a player has shoved already.
If you are interested, post a comment or email spritpot.
-BRUECHIPS
October 21, 2008
THIN! (Part 11)
Well, since the Shortstack Game seems to getting very little interest, I figured I'd put in a THIN! post before going back to it.
And this hand actually does have something to do with the Shortstack Game, just because it's blind vs. blind in a tourney where both players are fairly short. As loyal readers know, late in tourneys I think you really need to maximize your fold equity and steal chips preflop as often as you can.
One of the best times is when it's folded to the small blind, who limps into your big blind. Donks love to limp into the small blind with any two cards, and often min bet any flop or some donkey move like that. In general I do not permit this and will be either shoving preflop or shoving the flop if I catch any piece at all.
Some donks try to combat this by limping their big hands like AA, KK, AK, etc., which I think is probably a pretty good strategy. However these hands don't come around nearly often enough to deter me from shoving over their limps a large portion of the time. Perhaps some of them realize this and start limp/calling with some more marginal hands, like A6o. I'm pretty sure this is a terrible strategy. Say stacks are 10 bbs and you're comparing limp/calling A6o in the small blind to just shoving in your 10 bbs. A6o has only 51% equity vs. the top 50% of all hands, which is probably about my shoving range:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 51.043% 47.73% 03.32% 5805749604 403268034.00 { A6o }
Hand 1: 48.957% 45.64% 03.32% 5551921944 403268034.00 { 33+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J4s+, T6s+, 96s+, 86s+, 76s, 65s, A2o+, K5o+, Q7o+, J7o+, T8o+, 98o }
Whereas my calling range if the sb shoves is obviously much smaller, probably only 8% of all hands. Since you guys are probably bored of equity calculations, I'll spare you, but I don't think limp/calling a marginal hand like A6o is a good play.
An even worse play, which I can't come up with any logic for but which seems to be an important part of a tourney donk's arsenal, is limp/calling a terrible hand. I mean I really just don't get it. I guess they just get frustrated that I shove every time they limp like a donkey? I dunno. But something led to this "accidental value bet":
Seat 3: Donk (SB) (4,645)
Seat 4: bruechips (BB) (4,580)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [Kc 5s]
Donk calls 200 (does he really expect to get away with this BS?)
bruechips raises to 4,580, and is all in (gimme the pot, donk!)
Donk calls 4,180 (whoops...looks like I'm gonna have to spike something this time...)
Donk shows [Jc 5c] (actually...huh?!?!?)
*** FLOP *** [9h Ts Ah]
*** TURN *** [9h Ts Ah] [Qd]
*** RIVER *** [9h Ts Ah Qd] [Jh]
bruechips wins the pot (9,160) with a straight, Ace high
Just to clarify, J5s is a slight dog to a RANDOM hand. ROR!!! Oh man...donks make me laugh...
-BRUECHIPS
October 20, 2008
The Shortstack Game (Part 3)
Just in case anybody is still reading this...having set up our game and solved for player 2's best response function, we now need to figure out player 1's best reponse function. I ended the last post with a couple of questions to get you started considering player 1's best response function:
What's player 1's best response if player 2 folds every time?
Pretty obvious that if player 2 always folds, player 1 should always raise.
What's player 1's best response if player 2 shoves every time?
It's pretty obvious that if player 2 shoves every time, player 1 should never raise/fold. So depending on his hand, he should either raise/call or fold. If he folds, he gets zero, whereas if he raise/calls, he gets 21.5e - 20*(1-e). Set this expression equal to zero and solve for e, you get 20/41.5. So he should raise/call anytime his hand has more than (20/41.5) equity against a random hand. We already determined in the last post that these hands are 22+,A2+,K2+,Q3o+,Q2s+,J7o+,J3s+,T8o+,T6s+, and 97s+, for 54.8% of all hands. Player 1's average payoff is then:
.452*0 + .548*(.572*21.5 - .428*20) = 2.05
Whereas player 2 has an average payoff of -0.55. Not coincidentally, this is the exact inverse of the payoffs when player 1 raise/calls every time and player 2 best responds.
What if player 2 shoves 22+,A9o+,A5s+,KQo,KJs+ (14.6% of all hands) and folds everything else?
We will have to solve this by "backward induction", considering the last decision first and then using that to figure out the payoffs involved in making earlier decisions. So let's assume player 1 has raised and player 2 has shoved. Which hands should player 1 be calling with? He would be calling 17 to win 24.5, so he needs 24.5*e - 17*(1-e) > 0, or e greater than 40.9%. These hands are: 33+, ATo+, A9s+,KQs (9.7% of all hands). All other hands, had player 1 raised them, would be folded. Player 1's calling range then has 53.8% equity against player 2's shoving range. Now we can consider player 1's decision to raise or fold as his first move. Say he has the most marginal hand with exactly 40.9% equity. Should he raise? His expected payoff to raising is:
.854*1.5 + .146*(.409*21.5 - .591*20) = .84
This is clearly better than 0, the payoff from folding. Also note something else. If player 1 has a hand that he will NOT call a raise with, his payoff to raising is:
.854*1.5 + .146*(-3) = .84
This is also better than folding. That the payoff to raise/calling and raise/folding with the 40.9% equity hand is no coincidence. The 40.9% mark is exactly the point where calling player 2's shove and folding to it are equal in expected value.
Player 1's expected payoff to this strategy is now:
.854*1.5 + .146*(.097*(21.5*.538 - 20*.462) - .903*(1.5)) = 1.1
What is player 1's best response to any given strategy for player 2?
Let f be the % of the time that player 2 folds when player 1 raises. Then player 1's expected payoff of raise/calling is:
1.5*f +(1-f)(-3) = 4.5f - 3
This obviously equals 0 when f equals 2/3. So if player 2 is folding two-thirds of the time or greater, player 1 should raise every time. If player 2 shoves, then player 1 should call if he has greater than 40.9% equity vs. player 2's shoving range.
If player 2 folds less than 2/3 of the time (and therefore shoves more than 1/3 of the time), player 1 should never raise/fold, and should raise/call if:
1.5*f + (1-f)*(21.5e - 20*(1-e)) > 0
Where e is the equity of player 1's hand against player 2's shoving range.
-BRUECHIPS
October 19, 2008
The Shortstack Game (Part 2)
WARNING: This post is long and has a lot of math in it. If you don't understand something or just want to discuss, I encourage you to post in comments. I will try to respond and clarify.
In an earlier post I described a game representing the interaction between a cutoff raiser, player 1, and a shortstack on the button, player 2. Towards the end of the post, I asked two questions - what is player 2's best response if player 1 plays RAISE/FOLD every hand? What if he plays RAISE/CALL every hand?
If player 1 plays RAISE/FOLD every hand, it's pretty clear that player 2 should be shoving every hand. That is, SHOVE is player 1's best response to RAISE/FOLD. It doesn't matter what player 2's cards are, since player 1 will fold every time.
What if player 1 always plays RAISE/CALL? Player 2 has two options, FOLD and SHOVE. FOLD gives a payoff of zero, whereas SHOVE gives a payoff of:
(1) f*(4.5) + (1-f)*(21.5*e - 20*(1-e))
where f is the percentage of the time player 1 folds and e is the equity that player 2 has when player 1 calls. This e is obviously a function of the cards that player 2 holds, and the range of cards that player 1 is calling with. If player 1 plays RAISE/CALL every time, then f = 0, and e for a given hand for player 2 will just be the equity that hand has against a random hand (in Poker Stove, just click the 'RD' button to give a player a random range). Setting f = 0, we reduce (1) to:
(2) 21.5*e - 20*(1-e)
For SHOVE to be the correct play, it has to offer a higher payoff than the alternative, which is FOLD. Set (2) equal to the payoff for FOLD, which is zero, and solve for e :
(3) 21.5*e - 20*(1-e) = 0
=> e = 20/41.5
That is, if player 2's hand has equity of more than 20/41.5 against a random hand, he should shove. These hands are 22+,A2+,K2+,Q3o+,Q2s+,J7o+,J3s+,T8o+,T6s+, and 97s+. This is 54.8% of all hands. So how is each player doing under these strategies?
Player 1 raises every time. 45.2% of the time, player 2 folds and player 1 gets 1.5. The other 54.8% of the time, they get all in and player 1 has an average of 43% equity:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 57.233% 55.68% 01.55% 847980578496 23586063110.00 { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J3s+, T6s+, 97s+, 87s, A2o+, K2o+, Q3o+, J7o+, T8o+ }
Hand 1: 42.767% 41.22% 01.55% 627684857684 23586063110.00 { random }
So his total payoff is: .452*1.5 + .548*(.428*21.5 - .572*20) = -.55
Player 2 folds 45.2% of the time for a payoff of zero. The rest of the time, he has 57.2% equity for a total payoff of: .452*0 + .548*(.572*21.5 - .428*20) = 2.04 (Note that the two average payoffs add to 1.5. This must be the case under any strategies the players play, since no matter what happens, the two players' payoffs add to 1.5 - go back to the earlier post if you want to check)
Again, since we have figured out player 2's BEST response for player 1's strategy, this must be the highest payoff player 2 can get. Obviously this is not the case for player 1. If he just folded every time and got zero, he'd be better off than he would be playing the strategy of RAISE/CALL for every hand. So this is not an equilibrium (remember, an equilibrium is where both players are best responding to each other. Here, player 2 is best-responding to player but not vice versa).
Now that we've figured out player 2's best responses for some very simple player 1 strategies, let's figure it out for a strategy where player 1 varies his strategy based on his hand. Say, for instance, Player 1 plays RAISE/CALL with 22+, A8o+,A2s+,KT+, RAISE/FOLD with 45s-QJs, 68s-QTs, 89o-QJo, and T8o-QTo, and FOLD with all other hands. (1) still holds for determining player 2's payoff. To get the answer exactly right, we would have to calculate a different f for every hand player 2 has, due to card removal effects (e.g., if player 2 holds A2, it is less likely that player 1 holds AA, etc.). But we will sacrifice some accuracy in exchange for ease of calculation and calculate f independent of player 2's holdings. Notice that f is just the probability player 1 plays RAISE/FOLD divided by the sum of the probabilities player 1 plays RAISE/FOLD plus the probability he plays RAISE/CALL. That is, it's the probability he folds given that he has raised. 22+,A8o+,A2s+,KT+ is 18.6% of all hands. 45s-QJs, 68s-QTs, 89o-QJo,T8o-QTo is 10.2% of all hands, so
f = 10.2/(18.6 + 10.2) = 35.4
Plug this into (1), set equal to 0, and solve for e as earlier. you get e = .413. That is, any hand with at least 41.3% equity vs. player 1's calling range of 22+,A8o+,A2s+,KT+, player 2 should shove. Here are all such hands: 22+,A9o+,A5s+,KQo,KJs+. So player 2 is shoving 14.6% of the time. When player 1 calls, he has an average equity of 59.7%.
Now player 1's payoff is: .712*0 + .102*.146*(-3) + .186*.146*(.597*21.5 - .403*20) + .288*(1-.146)*1.5 = .45
So at least player 1 has improved upon his RAISE/CALL strategy and has now found a strategy that's better than folding every time.
Player 2's payoff is: .712*1.5 + .288*(.01*0 + .99*(.646*4.5 + .354*(.36*21.5 - .64*20)) = 1.05
So now we have figured out how to determine player 2's best response to a given strategy for player 1. Step 1: Calculate f from player 1's strategy. Step 2: Set equation (1) equal to zero and solve for e. Step 3: Go to Poker Stove and find all the hands that have at least e equity vs. player 1's calling range. This mapping from player 1's strategy to player 2's best response is called player 2's "best response function". In the next post on The Shortstack Game, we will figure out player 1's best response function. Then we will find a point where they intersect, which will then be an equilibrium. If you want to get a head start, try and find player 1's best response to player 2 playing FOLD every time, playing SHOVE every time, and playing SHOVE with the 22+,A9o+,A5s+,KQo,KJs+.
-BRUECHIPS
Brack Is Beautifur (Part 10)
For those of you looking forward to further analysis of The Shortstack Game, don't worry, that will come tomorrow. But I just had to post this first, especially because of the side action I had with Brackchips, who was watching me pray this hand. This was down to two tables of a DNG that started with 5 tables.
Seat 1: MP (600)
Seat 7: bruechips (BB) (5,860)
Seat 8: UTG (13,765)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [Qs Js]
UTG raises to 480
MP raises to 600, and is all in
bruechips calls 360 (This call is a little bit loose, but I did it for two reasons: 1) UTG was a megadonk, and I wanted to play hands with him, even OOP, and 2) MP was a shorty, and his less-than-min re-raise all-in meant that UTG couldn't re-raise, and I might get to check down and see the whole board for free.)
UTG calls 120
*** FLOP *** [5s Ks As] (Spades are gold)
bruechips checks
UTG bets 1,920
bruechips calls 1,920 (Looking back, maybe I should be raising this instead since UTG was a total station and his bet into the dry side pot indicates he has at least a pair and therefore would probably call if I shoved, whereas he might get scared if another spade rolls off on the turn.)
*** TURN *** [5s Ks As] [7s]
bruechips checks (Another spade...kind of kills my action...maybe he has like 8c8s and will shove all-in, but betting here would be bad as he might be able to fold some pairs.)
UTG checks
*** RIVER *** [5s Ks As 7s] [8s]
bruechips bets 3,340, and is all in (Here is the main interesting decision in the hand. The question is, is he more likely to call a shove or shove if I check? If he has a spade he MIGHT check behind but will definitely be calling if I shove. Actually this guy is such a donk, I think he's calling a shove with any two cards, thinking I'm bluffing and hoping for a split. Even though this is a bet into a side pot and I'm going to have to show down for the main anyway. So I shoved and he called. Before looking back into the 'Last Hand' tab to see what he had, I bet Brackchips $1 that he did not have a spade.)
UTG calls 3,340
*** SHOW DOWN ***
bruechips shows [Qs Js] a flush, Ace high
UTG mucked [Tc Ac] - a flush, Ace high (PWND!!! Ship the pot AND the $1!!!)
-BRUECHIPS
October 17, 2008
The Shortstack Game, Part 1
A recent post by gnome got me thinking, in part because I think he made an error in his post, which I describe in my comment there. As you might know if you follow the blog closely, I am a grad student in Economics. One of the things I study is game theory. When game theorists "solve" a game, what they look for (or at least the first thing they look for) is a "Nash equilibrium". When two players's strategies are in Nash equilibrium, each one knows the other's strategy, and even with that knowledge, neither one would choose a different strategy. Here's another way of saying it. Take some game with two players. Fix a strategy for player 2. Call player 1's "best response" to that strategy as the strategy available to him that maximally exploits player 2's strategy. Two strategies strategy1 (player 1's strategy) and strategy2 (player 2's strategy) are in Nash equilibrium if and only if strategy1 is player 1's best response to strategy2, and strategy2 is player 2's best response to strategy1.
As a whole, poker is far too complicated a game to find equilibrium strategies. There is not any guarantee that there exists a unique equilibrium. But sometimes we can take toy games that mimic at least some situations in poker, with some simplifications, and find an equilibrium. You'll find many such games in The Mathematics of Poker by Ankenmann and Chen, which I highly recommend. In any case, here we will solve 'The Shortstack Game', which works as follows:
Player 1 and Player 2 receive two cards. Player 1 can either fold or raise. If player 1 folds, he gets a payoff of zero and player 2 gets a payoff of 1.5. If player 1 raises, player 2 can either fold or shove. If player 2 folds, player 1 gets a payoff of 1.5 and player 2 gets a payoff of zero. If player 2 shoves, player 1 can either call or fold. If player 1 folds, he gets a payoff of -3 and player 2 gets a payoff of 4.5. If player 1 calls, a Hold 'Em board is dealt out and the player with the best hand wins. The winner gets a payoff of 21.5, whereas the loser gets a payoff of -20.
This game preserves the important features of a Hold 'Em situation where a player raises on the cutoff with a shorty on the button. I have made some simplifying assumptions, some of them important, some not. For instance, I say that when player 1 folds, player 2 also gets a payoff of 1.5. In reality, of course, player 2 won't always win the blinds when player 1 folds, but insteads enters into a new game with the players in the blinds. But that is inconsequential to our analysis here (although I plan to come back to it later), as all the decisions we're interested in are 1) whether player 1 decides to raise, and 2) what happens after player 1 raises. Neither of these depend at all on what player 2's payoff is when player 1 folds (convince yourself this is true or ask for clarification in comments if it is unclear).
Another assumption I've made is that the blinds fold every time (if player 1 raises and player 2 folds, player 1 wins 1.5, the blinds, automatically, and if player 2 shoves, the action is immediately back on player 1). This is obviously consequential as the potential for blinds calling or re-raising affects the payoff of player 1 when he raises and player 2 folds, and therefore how good raising is relative to folding for player 1. I could eliminate this need for simplification by making player 1 the small blind and player 2 the big blind, but: 1) If I recall correctly, there is already analysis of some very similar game in Ankenmann and Chen, and 2) Often as a good deep-stacked player you're going to want to be raising in position vs. the blinds so you can take a flop in position. I'd venture that 1.5 (i.e., winning the blinds for sure) is actually much lower than player 1's true EV of player 2 folding on the button to his raise.
Anyway, this post is plenty long enough already, so I think I'll stop there for now and allow for digestion and questions of the game setup before proceeding to solving the game. But if you want to do some work on it before next post, note that a strategy for player 1 consists of choosing either FOLD, RAISE/CALL, or RAISE/FOLD for every hand possible. A strategy for player 2 consists of choosing FOLD or SHOVE for every hand possible. What is player 2's best response to player 1 choosing RAISE/FOLD for every hand? What is player 2's best response to player 1 choosing RAISE/CALL for every hand?
-BRUECHIPS
October 15, 2008
SNG Strategy, Pokerlistings.com
Since I have been playing more donkaments recently, I thought I might try and write a brief primer on my SNG strategy. But then I was looking around Pokerlistings.com and discovered that Daniel Skolovy pretty much already wrote the exact series I was planning, only he wrote it better than I probably would have. Here are links to parts 1, 2, 3, and 4 of his series.
While you're over there checking those out (they have some other pretty good strategy articles as well), you might want to look into the rest of the site as well. For instance there's a MarketPulse that allows you to track how much durrrr/Tom Dwan has won on Full Tilt this year (over 2 mirrrrrrrrrion) and how much Patrik Antonius has lost (over one mirrion...yikes!). You can also search for biggest winners, tightest and loosest players, etc., by site and stakes. You can also search for individual players and the site will describe their playing style for you. I'm a "shark" whereas brackchips is a "bomb" ROR.
All you railbirds can also check out the live poker tournaments coverage where you can get info on WPT, EPT, etc., etc..
Anyway I thought I'd kind of go through Skolovy's series and add a few comments of my own.
Part 1: Low-Blind Play
There's really no reason to go nuts while the blinds are low. Overall the theme is, stick around till the blinds are high and everybody is short, then start raising whenever you have some fold equity and try to win a flip at some point. This kind of plays on the errors that most players make, which is to play loose early (hey it's only 30 chips to see the flop, let's do it), and too tight late (wow, he raised to 600...I only have 2,000 left...I'll fold). You can't get to that point where blinds are high and everybody is short if you bust out early in a marginal situation.
Phil Hellmuth takes this almost to a ridiculous extreme, as you see him playing some pretty decent hands extremely weak. I used to think this was just plain terrible (and I still think it's why he's less successful in cash games against great players), but there is value to taking these lines early in tourneys. Here's an example:
Seat 4: bruechips (BB) (1,500)
Seat 6: UTG+1 (1,500)
Seat 8: MP (1,290)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [Qs Ks]
UTG+1 calls 30
MP raises to 60
bruechips calls 30 (I could maybe even make a case for folding here. But I know UTG+1 will call as well, MP is clearly a donk with his min-raise of a limper, and I'm getting 6:1)
UTG+1 calls 30
*** FLOP *** [3s Kc 2s]
bruechips checks
UTG+1 bets 150
MP calls 150
bruechips calls 150 (This flop looks great, obviously, and in just about any cash game I'd be happy to raise and get my stack in here. But here in a donkament, 1) there is absolutely no chance of getting a fold from a better hand, 2) the value of survival means that giving up value vs. a hand like KJ or QQ is OK because I'm reducing my chances of busting out, and 3) If I hit a Q or a spade at least one of these donks will pay me off. Tourney players flat out hate folding pairs, even more than cash game donks. Basically, there are very few cards which kill my hand (really only an offsuit ace) and many cards that improve my hand, and I'd rather not flip for my stack this early.)
*** TURN *** [3s Kc 2s] [9c]
bruechips checks
UTG+1 checks (almost surely means I have him beat)
MP bets 190 (Less clear. I could easily have him beat, but he could also have a worse king, a pocket pair, 45, A5, random spades, etc.)
bruechips calls 190
UTG+1 folds
*** RIVER *** [3s Kc 2s 9c] [7d]
bruechips checks
MP bets 350
bruechips calls 350 (Against a donk like this guy, I could maybe bet/fold as opposed to check/calling to try and get value out of some of those worse paired hands that won't bet the river...but on the other hand this way I'll get value from his missed draws and I don't have to worry about folding the best hand to a raise.)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
MP shows [Ac Kh] a pair of Kings
So I played a pretty strong hand very weak here just to make sure I didn't get stacked. You might think that after seeing this other players would notice and realize that if you're raising early in a tourney your range is very polarized, but really they're too stupid or unobservant to either recognize this or figure out how to exploit it.
Part 2: Mid-Blind Play
To me this is the stage when c-betting is most effective. Early on you might not want to c-bet bluff as much because you just want to avoid committing chips and the donks will not be folding often. But these blind levels are where tourney donks in the blinds are most likely to call a raise preflop and then check-fold the flop.
Part 3: Shorthanded
The "deploy the pushbot" title pretty much says it all. Most players will be trying to fold to a cash. You should be attacking their blinds relentlessly, especially since you should have built up a tight image in the first few blind levels. I might go so far as to say that there are many tables where raising when folded to from the hijack, cutoff, button, or small blind is always correct, no matter what your hand is. Since big hands do not come around very often shorthanded, you really just want to maximize fold equity. Whenever you think you can win the pot preflop, raise. Those non-showdown chips are huge, since in general hand values will be pretty close, and it's never going to be that big a mistake this shallow to go ahead and flip. Force others to come up with hands or make courageous calls. Say blinds are 200/400 and it's folded to you in the small blind with J4o. The big blind has 1300 chips. Shove!! You might think....he has 400 chips in there already, how could he possibly be folding anything decent? But 1) what's decent? Is he gonna call you with Q5? Maybe, but it's really not that big a deal. T9s? Great! You've got that beat! 2) Even when he calls with something "decent", you will have decent equity. Even the lowly 23o has 30% equity vs. the top 25% of hands.
Another thing to look out for is players that raise/fold preflop. There are players out there that with a 6bb stack will raise to 3bbs and then fold to a shove. Man I love sitting to the left of these guys. When you see that, attack it. Winning a 5bb pot without showdown like that is absolutely delicious. Especially if you're the chip leader and the bubble is near. You should really be punishing these guys.
Part 4: Headsup
Again, the biggest mistake you could make would be to play too tight. Min raise from the sb/button until the other guy stops you. Feel free to 3-b shove when he raises your big blind with a wide range, as long as you're deep enough that he could conceivably fold. If either of you has less than 10 bbs, you should be shoving almost every time you get the chance. It's ALL about the fold equity. Say you raise and he folds a few times until you've got a 3:1 chip lead. Finally next time you shove and he finds a hand and calls you, and wins the hand. Now you're even in chips and next time you shove again, again he finds a hand, wins again, and you lose. Did you get carried away? No, you had TWO shots to win the tourney. Even if you were a 2:1 dog both times, like if you had T7o vs. his AKs, he only has a (2/3)*(2/3) = 4/9 chance to win the tourney. And he had to pick up AKs twice to get even that! So shove shove shove your way to tourney victories!!!
-BRUECHIPS
October 10, 2008
Stock Market = PWND
Although this is usually a poker brog, it's really often a running summary of conversations between myserf and Brackchips. Rike everybody erse, we have been marveling at the spectacular decrine of stock prices in the last few weeks. There's no particular reason why readers should give two shits about what I have to say about this whole mess, but here it is anyway!! Feel free to read, comment, or ignore to your heart's content.
First of all I think that individual CEOs and financial deregulation have gotten a little too much blame for all this. There's no doubt they contributed, but the role that Fannie and Freddie, and the general policy of the federal government to promote home ownership, has really been swept under the rug. I assume this is because the creators of this policy can credibly claim to have had only the best of intentions, desiring to help lower income brackets build some wealth by buying into "the American dream" of owning a house. Meanwhile the CEOs and deregulators were presumably driven by desire for personal gain. Be that as it may, what started this entire debacle was large bets placed on the housing market, made by the financial sector as well as individuals purchasing homes with little or no money down. These bets were in large part possible because Fannie and Freddie, at the prodding of Congress, bought up huge amounts of these types of mortgages.
For a long time it has been the case that banks making loans do not actually assume the risk of the loan defaulting. They turn around and sell this mortgage to someone else. Sometimes that someone else then bundles together those mortgages and sells slices of them to investors. The result is that mortgage originators will make any loan they can later sell. If there were no market for sub-prime loans, there would have been no sub-prime loans made. And again, Fannie and Freddie's demand for these loans brought this market to the size that it ended up obtaining. So that's kind of part one of the story.
The second part is when real estate prices finally started coming down. The value of those mortgages came down, and foreclosure rates went up. This is still ongoing. The severity of this problem is in part due to U.S. mortgage default laws, which basically say that debtors can't go after an individual's other assets if they default on a home loan. This means that if you owe more money your house than it's worth, you might as well just turn in the keys and walk away. If your down payment was zero, this happens as soon as your home decreases from your purchase price.
The third part is that all the banks holding mortgages and mortgage-backed-securites (the "slices" I referred to earlier) lost a lot of money on these things. At least on paper. It's hard to put a value on what these assets are actually worth now, but everyone realizes that it's a lot less than what they're supposed to be worth. This has lead to some bank closures and sales, as well as a general distrust between the banks about each other's credit-worthiness. As a result banks don't want to lend to each other, and instead want to hoard cash to make sure they can cover whatever their eventual losses on mortgages turns out to be. This hoarding of cash means not only less lending between banks, but also less lending by banks to businesses and consumers, which threatens to bring the non-financial economy to a halt.
Next, some individual investors saw all the chaos and decided they'd just freak out and convert all their assets into cash-in-hand or gold. Some of this made a little bit of sense, as one money market fund actually did break the buck (i.e., accounts lost value) based on the Lehman failure, and mutual funds and hedge funds saw huge redemptions. Some of it, like taking cash out of FDIC-insured deposits, made zero sense. People, if you have a savings account worth under $250k, every bit is safe. You don't need to take any of it out. In classic liquidity-crisis fashion, these panics exacerbated the problem, as banks became even more cash-hungry as depositors withdrew funds, and equity prices fell, reducing the attractiveness of selling equity in exchange for capital.
The final part is the last week, in which the stock market went completely bananas. The valuations of many stocks right now, as measured by the price to earnings ratio, are just absurdly low because the prices have fallen so far. There is no doubt that those valuations are unsustainable and will correct over the coming months. The question is whether they'll correct by prices (the numerator) going up or earnings (the denominator) going down. For some stocks the ratios are just so low that prices must go up at least somewhat for the valuations to make any sense at all.
There's still some chance that credit markets will not recover for a long time and a very long, deep recession will result. The stock market has already priced in at least a pretty bad recession if not more. Personally I remain somewhat confident that the actions of the U.S. and other governments will get credit markets moving again. If that happens, stocks will respond positively. I don't know if we'll be back up to Dow 11,000 or 12,000 any time soon, but I do think the doomsday scenario of Dow 5,000 and a decade of slow to no growth can be averted.
I hope that whatever the government ends up doing will co-opt the private sector as much as possible. While it's better than nothing, I don't know if I like the government could do a good job picking winners and losers (e.g., who gets capital and who doesn't) all on its own. Some kind of scheme matching private investments would be better. Here is one such idea.
Anyway, I hope you guys haven't lost too much!!
-BRUECHIPS
October 9, 2008
Defending vs. 3-bets again...
Brackchips has been telling me for a while that I should post this hand, and I'm finally getting to it, so here goes. The overall thought in this hand is, there are several ways to punish 3-betters, 1) 4-betting light, 2) slowplaying a big hand, and 3) calling light in position to take away the pot on later streets. Against observant players, you can't do 1) and 2). But you also can't do 3) without doing some of 2). That is, you can't 4-bet light if you're never 4-betting your big pocket pairs, because your 4-bets have no credibility. At the same time, you can't call with only speculative hands and then raise tons of flops and turns because your opponent knows that you won't hit boards as often as you're making plays at them if your starting hands are all weak. Personally, I try to mix up 1) and 3) when I have a weak hand (IF I decide to play the hand - obviously some of the time I'm just giving up and folding), which means that I have to mix up slowplaying and 4-betting my big hands as well.
Second thought relates back to this post from a while back, where I basically say that floating a rag board in position in a 3-bet pot gets very little credit. After making that observation, the way to exploit it is to float the flop with some strong hands.
Overall, this board came out perfectly for me in that I had vastly under-repped my hand, and he get a river he thought he could rep when he didn't have the goods. This allowed me to get absolute maximum value in a spot where I don't there's any other way I could win his whole stack at a deep table. Of course, the board could easily have come out differently where I might have either lost value or lost the pot entirely. But here's how this one played out:
Seat 1: SB ($103.85)
Seat 6 (button): bruechips ($100)
*** HOLE CARDS **
Dealt to bruechips [Ks Kc] (BOOOOOOOOM!!!)
folds to me...
bruechips raises to $1.75
SB raises to $6
bruechips calls $4.25 (Here's where the interesting part of the hand starts. As I said before, I have to slowplay big hands sometimes preflop to protect the times when I'm calling just because I'm in position and I want to take it away later. Another point in favor of doing this is that this guy was a pretty tight player, and this deep, even button vs. SB, I don't think he'd put too much more money in preflop without AA or MAYBE AK/QQ. However, most 6-max players, even tight ones, feel like they are repping big strength by 3-betting and then barreling away, so they will usually keep pounding until they meet resistence. I'm hoping that's what will happen in this hand.)
** FLOP ** [5h 9h 7d]
SB bets $10
bruechips calls $10 (PERFECT frop. Two things: I'm not that worried about the flush draw. Don't get too scared about flush draws in three-bet pots, particularly if you're up against an infrequent 3-bettor, as there aren't that many suited cards in his range, and after all, only 1/4 of his suited cards just hit a flush draw. I'm also not THAT worried about a set, because I think he'd probably just call me preflop rather than re-raise this deep with 55/77 to set mine. It's certainly possible he has some 67s type of hand that has a lot of outs now, but in all likelihood he's drawing to 2 outs with QQ-TT, or 3 outs with AK/AQ.)
*** TURN ** [5h 9h 7d] [2s]
SB bets $24
bruechips calls $24 (I just called preflop, just called the flop, how great a hand could I have? It looks for all the world like I have 66, 88, 98s, maybe QhTh or something like that. He's either betting for value against those hands or betting because he thinks I'll fold them. Of course I'm way stronger than that (if you don't know, KK is WAY stronger than 88 on this board with one card to come), and when you're at the top of your range given your prior actions, in general you shouldn't be going anywhere. I could raise here. But I decided to just call and give him a chance to do something courageous on the river, because I think he might be folding QQ-TT if I raise here, and certainly he'll fold A-high.)
*** RIVER ** [5h 9h 7d 2s] [As]
SB bets $63.85, and is all in
bruechips calls $60, and is all in (Obviously not the greatest river card, and I did time down a bit before calling. But when you see a card like this on the river, don't think "Oh, come on! I rope-a-doped him this whole way and then he rivers me!!! So sick!! So gross!!! Bleh bleh barf barf barf." Just think about whether you have the best hand, that's it. And when you think about it, even though he's a fairly tight player, he's got to shove this river with like 100% of his range that's NOT an A. He's repped strength from the beginning and then the A comes on the river, which I'm very unlikely to have unless I called down with an A-high heart draw, which would be pretty ghey, or I now hit aces up, which is also kind of improbable. I would have had to have called preflop with Ad9d or some such hand. A5s or A7s I probably fold on the turn, if I had wanted to get sticky on earlier streets. Really his view of most of my range is what I described before, middle pocket pairs and suited connectors that got stubborn with pair+straight draw. Finally, since my range is fairly weak and scared of the A, why would he shove if he did have, say, AKo or A4 of hearts? He knows that I'm not going to call with 88. He knows I'll be calling if I do have A9 or slowplayed a set or straight. He might as well just check/call. It's possible I'm wrong about that and he'd be shoving AKo and Ah4h too, but even so, getting 2:1 on my money and all those bluffs in his range, I found the call button.)
*** SHOW DOWN **
SB shows [Td Tc] a pair of Tens
bruechips wins the pot ($197.50) with a pair of Kings
Whew, got it right this time!
-BRUECHIPS
October 7, 2008
I got a fever...
...and the only cure is: MORE DONK-N-GOs!!!! A number of factors have conspired recently to curb my cash game habit: 1) I moved into a new apartment, which is awesome and a huge upgrade, but I put my desktop in my bedroom as opposed to the common room b/c it's a two-bedroom place. This means I can't watch TV and play at the same time. While I never actually paid that much attention to the TV while playing, somehow it seems difficult to go into a different room and commit to not watching, for instance, playoff baseball. 2) School started back up again, meaning I have to spend a bunch of time and energy on that, especially since I did absolutely zero towards any research over the summer. 3) I know this sounds weird and ghey, but for some reason, after I got my bankroll to a certain level and had a certain win rate in cash games, I felt like I had proved to myself that I was a pretty good player and just didn't want to risk either the money or that self-image. It's a lame reason for not playing and I will get over it, but it has definitely been a factor.
Anyway, playing small stakes donk-n-gos solves all these problems. I can easily play on my laptop while watching some baseball. It's totally stress free and I can literally play 4-5 at a time and not have to pay very much attention. The players are just so weak it's ridiculous. I also enjoy getting bad beated and berating donkeys for their play. I really do take a sick pleasure in it. Their idiot responses ("thought you were bluffing", "just wanted to see the next card", etc.) only add fuel to the flame of righteous indignation every time I lose to J4o or 92s. Of course, the hourly rate I'm getting to play them is less than I'd get grinding 1/2 FR. But with my ROI well over 30%, it's decent money to shovel in while I'm really spending 75% of my attention watching baseball.
Sometimes if I want to get a little crazier I'll throw in some HU DNGs as well. Just so this post doesn't go without a HH, here's one in which I got some pretty thin value FTW in this HU DNG:
Seat 1: bruechips (2,270)
Seat 2: SB/Button (730)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bruechips [3d Ad]
Virrain raises to 60
bruechips calls 40 (A little loose. Stack sizes are a bit inconvenient. Calling, shoving, and folding are all pretty close IMHO.)
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qh 4s]
bruechips checks
Virrain bets 90
bruechips calls 90 (A-high is the nuts on a paired board)
*** TURN *** [Qd Qh 4s] [2h] (Best card in the deck for me)
bruechips checks
Virrain bets 200 (Please don't raise me!!!)
bruechips raises to 900
Virrain calls 380, and is all in (Fawk...well I guess I've gotta call)
Virrain shows [Js Kc] (pwnd)
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qh 4s 2h] [Ac]
bruechips wins the pot (1,460) with two pair, Aces and Queens
bruechips: gg
-BRUECHIPS