August 15, 2009

Another WWYD...

Original raiser is 19/15 or so, not too much info on anybody else in the hand...Also note that it's 7-handed, so MP is also the hijack:


Full Tilt p0ker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 7 players - http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/233057
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

UTG+1: $23.65
MP: $128.50
CO: $41.50
BTN: $22.20
SB: $85.50
Hero (BB): $102.60
UTG: $132.75

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Td Th
2 folds, MP raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, BTN raises to $22.20 all in, 1 fold, Hero ???

-BRUECHIPS

4 comments:

noldmax said...

I think folding is fine. You are ahead of short-stack shove range for sure, but not knowing MP's strength puts you in a real bind. Calling sucks, b/c MP might read your call as evidence of a middle strength hand, and if he's good he might shove to isolate with something as weak as 99/AJ/AQ.

I kinda like a min-raise here. It's a scary advertisement of strength which should fold out most overcard hands and discourage any sort of bluff-raise from the MP. Anything better will either raise or call, making your play easy.

The Poker Meister said...

Shove or fold situation in my opinion. Calling means you've nearly reached the commitment threshold before the flop, which is out of the question; I don't think you can call a 20x re-raise / shove with unknowns to act who you have to assume are looking to shove 120BBs.

Tens are not a hand in which you want to go to battle for your stack. There are plenty of hands that you are splitting odds with & the worst case scenario is you're up against AA-QJ (with no shared cards), which totally destroys your odds of winning the hand. Since it's a cash game, I fold & wait for a better spot.

Wilson said...

I agree with others that calling in this situation is a definite no. To all the shove supporters out there, I don't the idea either. MP bet and the CO call would indicate at least a PP or some sort of paint for those two hole cards. If they were to call, Im sure it'll be with overs or a higher PP. So against them at best we are 50/50. The push by button could very well be with a lower PP, as common in a squeeze play. Depending on the player the PP could vary. If this player is not a complete aggro, I think we are a little ahead of his range, 66-AAs and AK. However, having no money invested in the pot, a slight chance we are ahdead of button, and 2 players to act behind, I see this as a obvious fold. I mean if we call, and MP or CO push? What would you do? I feel we would know then we have the worst hand but still have to call the reraise. Thats a nasty situation that could be avoided by a simple fold early on.

Lucypher said...

Pocket 10s are my fifth most winning hand with over 100k hands in the database. Because I like the hand and it has proven to hold up well in my experience, I might consider shoving here. The MP guy would be my concern. If it were just the button and CO, I shove.
However, I have to agree that I would lean toward folding here.